It’s been a minute (or two) since we released an episode. But we’ve got some good reasons. And we cover them in this episode!

Jen got sick. Shawn got sick. And other stuff happened.

Jen talked about her new podcast and non-podcast ventures. Shawn talked about why he rejoined Instagram after being away from that platform for many years.

The two talk a lot about social networks, and why social networks suck.